THE BABY: Even with her meal plans, is that, is that what, was the responsible thing to do, is buy a bunch of bulk stuff, and let it sit there. Even with her meals. Even with the…

PATRICIA: Iman been here. Iman was here two weeks ago.

THE BABY: Great. Great.

PATRICIA: She was, she didn’t have a problem, with, with what Mother Peggy has in this house.

THE BABY: Iman didn’t have a problem, is it in her best interest? Is it in Peggy’s best interest?

PATRICIA: [intangible] The food, he don’t like the food you got.

THE BABY: It’s not about me. It’s just, seeing how, when I got here, she needed help with lunch. She needed help cooking it and stuff it seemed. That’s just my observation, it’s just a personal opinion. But it’s ok, everyone can have their opinion.

THE NOTETAKER: This is a back up for me. [intangible]

THE BABY: But when I came here, she was like, she needed help with lunch and stuff. Seemed like she still needed help. So, it’s just a personal opinion. If Iman is really doing it in her best interest.

PATRICIA: I, she and Iman, I took, I took Mother Peggy and Bobbie, to go, to, to get these groceries. The three of us went to get these groceries. 

THE BABY: That’s great. Uh huh.

PATRICIA: So, they, she and Bobbie pretty much picked out these groceries, if you have a problem.

THE BABY: I, I, see, I don’t have a problem.

PATRICIA: Ok, you just said, what, what is this food in this house. 

THE BABY: No, I’m just recommending that, there’s…

PATRICIA: Backed up all this food.

THE BABY: No, not… [laughs] You putting words in my mouth, I didn’t say all this food, so I’ll stop, I’ll stop with the food conversation. 

PATRICIA: You said why do you have all this food in the house here. That’s what you just made a statement about the food.

THE BABY: No, so, so, I went from A-B, A-B-C, A-B-C. A, you mention the car, and you’re trying to say I, I, and you say Jamal a lot. I, I, or you, whatever, you keep pointing the target at me. The car is not for me, it’s about Peggy’s mobility. Another example of something that might improve, is, is, uh, Peggy’s meal stuff, or just food stuff related to her. It’s not about me, it’s fine, so we can move the topic to something else, if that’s…

PATRICIA: Yeah, ok, because that food was bought by, picked out by Mother Peggy and Bobbie. We all went to the, uh, to Sam’s grocery store. And they…

THE BABY: Does Bobbie have an attorney, or is he working with a lawyer or something like that?

PATRICIA: Not at this time.

THE BABY: Ok.

PATRICIA: And, and then, uh, Iman came here, Iman saw the food here. She didn’t have a problem with the food. She, she felt it was good that she had all this food in the house. She didn’t have a problem. And I think ya’ll ate out a lot when Iman came, right?

THE NOTETAKER: Yes, we did.

PATRICIA: They went, they went and, uh, ate out.

THE BABY: Cool, what were some of Iman’s recommendations? Because I did a lot of transparent communication, when I guess, you know, the thing is that noone, I don’t even know if there’s really a new power of attorney document. I haven’t been shown it. But when I was, I guess, I guess according to people, as I am, to my knowledge, the durable power of attorney. I provided a lot of transparent communication and stuff. What are some of the other recommendations Iman gave?

PATRICIA: I don’t know that.

THE BABY: Because I think she might be just regurgitating the same recommendations that I was giving. 

PATRICIA: I don’t know all that.

THE BABY: So you don’t know any of Iman’s recommendations?

PATRICIA: I wasn’t allowed, I was not allowed to go with them. 

THE BABY: For example, for example, for example, uh, we kind of realized a great alternative was to start taking Peggy out to eat, like during lunch time, to get variety in her meal, to get outdoor time, to see the environment. And also it was able to sync the schedules as her caregiver, to be able to, so I can work there as well. You might think it was self-interest, but it was just us trying to sync our schedules together, to work with someone and their caregiver. What other recommendations does Iman have, similar to going out to eat, since that was like a, a bragging point of what Iman did?

PATRICIA: [silence] I don’t know what Iman has, uh, you know, planned. I don’t know how she was gonna do what she was gonna do. 

THE BABY: Mhmmm.

PATRICIA: I don’t know. I don’t know.

THE BABY: Me neither, I mean, I guess we all don’t know.

PATRICIA: Well I mean… Iman has her plans, and, you know, and how she’s working things, and, you know, so, I don’t, I can’t sit here and tell you what Iman’s plans are. You have to call Iman. And ask her.

THE BABY: Um. I don’t, well…

PATRICIA: How can I tell you what she, what she’s planning, from New Jersey, for your mom. How can I tell you that?

THE BABY: Well I guess you did say that, uh, you guys did say that there was a plan of, of, when I am better, everything is going to return, and saying something like everything will return to you, and it’s the when detail. Let’s talk about the when, because medical professionals say that I’m better now. So the when I am better is the detail. And then, so if you’re saying that everything is going to return, I’d like to know if your providing false information. Not in like a legal sense, but just like are you telling me the truth? Are you telling me the truth of Iman’s plan?

PATRICIA: Some things. Some things Iman can allow you to take back, I mean gradually. 

THE BABY: Great, so what is this, so what is this, what is this?

PATRICIA: Because, you, you just. Well, to be honest with you, ok. You were on a BOLO list. 

THE BABY: Good, so, good, good, so, I, no, no, no, no, no, so, good, good,

PATRICIA: Listen.

THE BABY: No, I’ll pause it because you’re talking down to me. 

PATRICIA: No.

THE BABY: You’re talking down to me. Good, and I’ll calm…

PATRICIA: You asked what other plans.

THE BABY: No.

PATRICIA: And why aren’t we going there, like we…

THE BABY: You started to say… it’s ok, no, no, no, we have to pause there. It’s ok, because, it’s alright. Because it’s the whole thing of like, you started off with like Iman…

PATRICIA: You don’t want to accept that [intangible].

THE BABY: No, no, no, no, no. Trish, it’s not about Iman is taking things away from me. It’s not about that. See that’s the thing, I’m not even in this, it’s supposed to just be about Peggy. And then so, if there’s something that you should tell me about why, uh, why this is going on, then you can tell me. But if not, I’m not going to be talked down to, as if, um, as if it’s like that. It’s ok.